I think that the official answer is based on the Montevideo Convention of 1933. The convention defines what is a state-nation and what is not. They probably go with land so as not to interject their definition of state-nation. Some countries may recognize another country and independent while others do not, so not to wade into that political mire they went with land. Good example is that China does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation but as China property, for trade reasons the US considers is a quasi-sovereign nation, that is why there is no embassy in Taipei but there is the American Institute in Taiwan and no Ambassador. So by calling everything a land it removes that headache.
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In the yearbooks, why 'lands' not 'countries'?
by LoveUniHateExams inwhy does watchtower say that the 'world-wide preaching work' occurs in x amount of lands, not countries?
well, i have a theory.
hear me out.
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Russia and the letter writing
by Listener inthis is the whole of the instructions that the watchtower gave jws when writing to russian officials -.
content • you are writing to the official to request his intervention.
express the hope that the russian authorities will stop the legal action being taken against the branch office and the congregations in russia so that our brothers and sisters can continue to gather peacefully for christian meetings without interference.
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Richard Oliver
NikL I take your point that you and the Russian government view Jehovah's Witnesses as an extremist organization and you point to hate speech as proof. What Watchtower and these letters are trying to show, is not that the law should be changed, but that it is being misapplied to them. It is using the court system in a way that is beneficial to the group, and lets face it the Russian Court system will do what the Russian government wants it to do.
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Russia and the letter writing
by Listener inthis is the whole of the instructions that the watchtower gave jws when writing to russian officials -.
content • you are writing to the official to request his intervention.
express the hope that the russian authorities will stop the legal action being taken against the branch office and the congregations in russia so that our brothers and sisters can continue to gather peacefully for christian meetings without interference.
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Richard Oliver
Was Paul not remaining neutral when he used the legal system of the Roman's not just to appeal his case but to appeal it to Ceasar. It is asking a government to abide by their own laws of freedom of religion and by the treaties that they are signatories to that require them to also provide freedom of religion. They are not running anyone for office to try and get it over thrown or any other political means. Using the court system is not a political act.
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HLC Letters and Documents
by wifibandit inas i release a set of hlc letters and documents that i have received, i will add them to this thread.
also, in the future, any other hlc documents will be updated here.
when you see me update, it may be a new letter.
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Richard Oliver
Layman provides Doctors with information all the time. Pharma reps along with equipment reps consistently gives doctors information that they fully don't understand. There are people in those organizations that are either doctors or other medical professionals that are there to answer technical questions, but that is not the reps that do the in service. Also not all doctors will stay current with medical literature or they may not stay current with literature outside their specialty. An orthopedist with an admitted patient is the attending physician for that patient no matter what complications they may have, that is until another doctor is officially put on the case. If a patient for that orthopedist, develops a pulmonary embolism it is still the orthopedist's responsibility to treat the patient's embolism, they can't just say, well I set the leg my job is done, no that is still their patient. And another doctor can't write orders for treating that patient's embolism because they are not the patient's doctor. So what the HLC does is to present medical journal articles and to be a facilitator for doctors to get the information that they need and thinks that is relevant -
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Red Alert - Propaganda is Being Used!!!!!!!!
by The Searcher incheck out the latest watchtower:.
"your defense?
be determined to stick to jehovah’s organization and loyally support the leadership he provides—no matter what imperfections may surface.
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Richard Oliver
I am not trying to start something, but I think you mean page 30 not page 20.
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Blood problems in Italy
by OrphanCrow inin february 2017, the european association of jehovah's witnesses made a "submission to un human rights committee subsequent to the adoption of the list of issues on the sixth periodic report of italy".. the 119th session of the human rights committee is currently underway - the dates are march 6 - march 29.. the wts has been trying to get "intesa" status in italy for decades and this latest submission to the un highlights the problems the jws are encountering in italy concerning the blood taboo.. this link will take you to a downloadable word document that is the wt's submission being considered:.
http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/treaties/ccpr/shared%20documents/ita/int_ccpr_css_ita_26670_e.docx.
23676 of 2008: mr grassato (one of jehovah’s witnesses) was unconscious when admitted to the hospital.
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I completely agree that a Doctor should give a patient as much information as needed to make an informed decision. But that raises two questions, who determines when there has been enough information given to the patient, each case is different? Second, who will determine if the decision was made by the patient only since the doctor provided the information or if it was a predetermined decision, obviously I am not meaning DPAs but a mental decision was come to only following the full disclosure.
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Blood problems in Italy
by OrphanCrow inin february 2017, the european association of jehovah's witnesses made a "submission to un human rights committee subsequent to the adoption of the list of issues on the sixth periodic report of italy".. the 119th session of the human rights committee is currently underway - the dates are march 6 - march 29.. the wts has been trying to get "intesa" status in italy for decades and this latest submission to the un highlights the problems the jws are encountering in italy concerning the blood taboo.. this link will take you to a downloadable word document that is the wt's submission being considered:.
http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/treaties/ccpr/shared%20documents/ita/int_ccpr_css_ita_26670_e.docx.
23676 of 2008: mr grassato (one of jehovah’s witnesses) was unconscious when admitted to the hospital.
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This reminds me of what a doctor who taught a class for me gave all of the students a scenario. A man goes into a comma and is on a ventilator, he has no living will or DPA, he has a wife who he has been estranged from for 5 years but never divorced, three grown children, a girlfriend for 3 years, then you throw in the Hospital Ethics department. The doctor is confident that the man won't come out of the coma with any normal function. The doctor is told by the wife to pull the plug, the girlfriend is telling him to keep him alive and two of the kids says to pull and the third says to keep him alive. This instructor asked, who does the doctor listen too. Everyone in the class gave answers, most said the wife because she would be the next-of-kin and what she wants is the only one that matters. He told us that we were all wrong. He said the person that gets to decide is that man. It is what the doctor believes that man wanted to be done to him in that situation, and whoever can articulate his feelings is, that is what the doctor will do.
Also, I remember another instructor saying if you do something against a patient's will even doing CPR if there is a POST issued DNR, you have just committed assault on that patient.
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Blood problems in Italy
by OrphanCrow inin february 2017, the european association of jehovah's witnesses made a "submission to un human rights committee subsequent to the adoption of the list of issues on the sixth periodic report of italy".. the 119th session of the human rights committee is currently underway - the dates are march 6 - march 29.. the wts has been trying to get "intesa" status in italy for decades and this latest submission to the un highlights the problems the jws are encountering in italy concerning the blood taboo.. this link will take you to a downloadable word document that is the wt's submission being considered:.
http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/treaties/ccpr/shared%20documents/ita/int_ccpr_css_ita_26670_e.docx.
23676 of 2008: mr grassato (one of jehovah’s witnesses) was unconscious when admitted to the hospital.
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I only used the Government and Doctors in my discussion because that is the issue is in the Original Post, even though OC is just using it as an example of what Watchtower is using in their defense of a persecution. But it is relatively common for either doctors, hospitals or governments to decide what patients will get, mostly though what they will not get. The most common is that of abortions and family planning needs. Catholic hospitals have refused to either provide abortions when a mother's life is in danger or will refuse to provide sterilization to a woman even though a doctor may feel that her life is in danger if she becomes pregnant. Doctors in certain states are legally allowed to assist a terminally ill patient to end their suffering sooner, but there are doctors who have a moral reason to refuse to do so causing that patient to suffer more and more. And I understand that in most cases the patient can just go somewhere else, but that is not in all cases. Many people live in communities where there is only one hospital or a limited number of doctors to treat patients.
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Blood problems in Italy
by OrphanCrow inin february 2017, the european association of jehovah's witnesses made a "submission to un human rights committee subsequent to the adoption of the list of issues on the sixth periodic report of italy".. the 119th session of the human rights committee is currently underway - the dates are march 6 - march 29.. the wts has been trying to get "intesa" status in italy for decades and this latest submission to the un highlights the problems the jws are encountering in italy concerning the blood taboo.. this link will take you to a downloadable word document that is the wt's submission being considered:.
http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/treaties/ccpr/shared%20documents/ita/int_ccpr_css_ita_26670_e.docx.
23676 of 2008: mr grassato (one of jehovah’s witnesses) was unconscious when admitted to the hospital.
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Richard Oliver
OC you are absolutely right blood transfusions do save lives. But it should also be looked at as a slippery slope, if a government can tell you what medical procedures you should or should not accept then that is when a problem does come in. It does apply to doctors as well. It is your body you get to decide what medical treatments you allow and which you deny.
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ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released
by jwleaks inall exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
exhibit list.
joint statement of o'brien and spinks.
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Richard Oliver
Konceptual99 you provided a clear reason where you feel the policies has problems. I agree having more of a single policy would be better in the long run.